X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 09:20:09 -0400 From: jsk@gamewood.net Subject: [MapHist] MARC- machine readable cataloguing- basics To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl As someone who is a relative novice re: basics of machine readable cataloguing (MARC) practices, and wanting to understand some of those basics, I found the following site online managed by the Library of Congress: That site was easily readable, and divided into sections that seemed to make it digestable. This isn't a personal recommendation, but since cataloguing issues enter into the lives of collectors and dealers (even if they may not make sense when trying to sell a map or book), I thought I'd pass this along. This includes a bit of specific information regarding cataloguing geographic materials themselves. This was tied to an earlier query I made regarding a cataloguing reference, and an offline comment was mailed to me recommending, as a basic reference: Larsgaard, Mary L. Map Librarianship: An Introduction. 3rd ed. Littleton, Colo.: Libraries Unlimited. 1998. This and other references may be seen at: . Joel Kovarsky _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 21:05:59 +0200 From: Dr.Török_zsolT Organization: Cartart FacTsimile Workshop X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] ICHC 2005 Budapest: Call for Papers! X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Dear MapHisters, The Organizing Committee of the 21st International Conference on the History of Cartography is happy to announce the publication of the ICHC 2005 CALL FOR PAPERS. The document was mounted on the conference web site and can be downloaded as a .pdf (Portable Document Format) file from: http://lazarus.elte.hu/ichc2005.htm (You need the free Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer to be able to read and print the Call.) For another successful conference we need your contribution, especially to the Academic Programme. Please, do not forget to submit your abstract(s) of paper and/or poster presentation before October 15, 2004, if you would like to be an ICHC 2005 Presenter. Participants of the Budapest conference can register at the cheaper rate, Euro 160.00, before February 15, 2005. (The Registration and Reservation Form can also be downloaded from our web pages. Please, fill it in ink and mail or fax the document to the Conference Secretariat.) We have made special efforts to offer affordable conference fees for all who would like to join us between 17-22 July, 2005 in Budapest, Hungary. Please, help us in saving money and forward this conference information and our web address to your two map historian colleagues who are NOT on MapHist. Thank you for you contribution, We look forward to hearing from you, Zsolt Torok ICHC 2005 Conference Co-ordinator ICHC 2005 Academic Secretariat http://lazarus.elte.hu/ichc2005.htm e-mail: ichc2005@lazarus.elte.hu _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: jsk@pop.gamewood.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:30:07 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Joel Kovarsky Subject: [MapHist] British Library Map Catalogue X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl ·For those who may not have seen this,  the BL's  map catalogue descriptions are accessible via the new experimental interface at COPAC <http://www.copac.ac.uk/msgw/wzgw>. The map search link appears at the bottom of that page, but apparently not all maps are yet correctly identified as such, so other field searches may be needed. It was clear that changes are underway for this interface. This is not a digital image catalogue.

              Joel Kovarsky

X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] British Library Map Catalogue Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:05:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl

The former card catalogues of the Collections (including that of the Map Room) of this Society are partially online, too (since Tuesday 8 June) - but I expect you all know this already - albeit without images.  With individual limitations (the Map Room's catalogue up to 1940, that of the Library up to 1910, etc.), the records are not yet edited in depth; nor all the individual plates of composite atlases (e.g. the two 'Lafreri-type' collections) recorded.

 

Francis Herbert (Curator of Maps, RGS-IBG)

f.herbert@rgs.org

http://www.rgs.org [see 'Collections']

 

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·For those who may not have seen this,  the BL's  map catalogue descriptions are accessible via the new experimental interface at COPAC <http://www.copac.ac.uk/msgw/wzgw>. The map search link appears at the bottom of that page, but apparently not all maps are yet correctly identified as such, so other field searches may be needed. It was clear that changes are underway for this interface. This is not a digital image catalogue.

              Joel Kovarsky

X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] Article on maps Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:36:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl "Index Maps for the Digital Age" by K. Jensen, L. Musser, & P. Andrew appears on pp.81-87 of INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND LIBRARIES, V.23 #2 June 2004. _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "S & L" To: Subject: [MapHist] Names ? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:48:22 +0300 Organization: Sorin & Laura M. Fortiu X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I am trying to identify the full names of the following map makers from the XVIII century: Klebern Jägert Sax J. Any help is very appreciated, S o r i n _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:54:27 -0500 Subject: [MapHist] Celestial session for ICHC 2005/Budapest??? To: maphist@geog.uu.nl, HASTRO-L@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU From: "Anna Friedman" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl [apologies for cross posting] Dear colleagues, After receiving the recent call for papers, it occurred to me that one way to combat the typical dearth of papers on celestial mapping at the International Conference on the History of Cartography might be to organize a "Celestial Mapping" session. If anyone else is interested in this idea, please contact me with a brief description of what you might present, or even just an indication that you're interested. I'll be submitting a paper regardless, but I would much rather submit an entire session toward the goal of raising the awareness and knowledge of the rich and varied history of star, lunar, planetary, and cosmographical maps and globes, and more! Looking forward to hearing from some of you... Regards, Anna Friedman *************************** Anna Felicity Friedman Assistant Curator, History of Astronomy Adler Planetarium & Astronomy Museum 1300 South Lake Shore Drive Chicago, IL 60605 1 312 322-0527 phone 1 312 341-9935 fax anna_friedman@adlernet.org _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Jens Bornholt" To: Subject: [MapHist] Morse family of mapmakers Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 12:56:21 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
Dear all,
In a work titled:
Nicaragua: Past, Present and Future;  a Description of its inhabitants,
customs & c.  By Peter F.Stout, Esq. Philadelphia: John E.Potter, No.617 Sansom Street 1859
there appears a maps titled simply "Morse's Map iof Central America".
Can anybody tell me which Morse this may be? (In Tooley's Dictionary Revised Edn. K-P 2003 there are named several Morses.)
regards,
Jens P.Bornholt
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: docktor@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:54:37 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "John W. Docktor" Subject: Re: [MapHist] Morse family of mapmakers X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
Nicaragua: Past, Present and Future;  a Description of its inhabitants,
customs & c.  By Peter F.Stout, Esq. Philadelphia: John E.Potter, No.617 Sansom Street 1859
there appears a maps titled simply "Morse's Map iof Central America".
Can anybody tell me which Morse this may be? (In Tooley's Dictionary Revised Edn. K-P 2003 there are named

Jens,
Does your map look like the one on Rumsey's site at http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps5510.html that was done by Sidney E. Morse?

John
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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:29:48 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] Looking for information on traditional map folding patterns X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from ["Debbie Kogan" ] I'm not sure if map folding is a topic that is of interest to the readers of the MapHist listserv. If not, please excuse this posting. I am a student and practitioner of "book arts." I learned a particular folded structure for a rectangular sheet of paper that was referred to as "the Turkish map fold" structure. It is similar to some origami folds. You can see an image of a book that I have made using this fold structure at http://www.sfcb.org/php/bookpix.php3?id=t3-111604-bnd Does anyone know if this is in fact a traditional map fold structure and whether it originated or was used in Turkey? I have seen it used for other maps, most recently in a map that was issued along with the purchase of an annual Yosemite National Park pass several years ago. THANKS! Please reply to me at: debbie_kogan@sbcglobal.net Debbie Kogan 3664 Hardin Way Soquel, CA 95073 831-476-0702 (voice and message) 831-476-6507 (voice and fax) debbie_kogan@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Jens Bornholt" To: Subject: [MapHist] Kaerius 2nd wife Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:28:12 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
Roderick Barron in his catalogue #39 Summer 2003 on p.18 mentions that van den Keere's wife Anna Bert died in 1621 and he re-married in 1623 to Anns (Anna?) Winninghs of Ghent.
No mention is made of this in Tooley's Dictionary K-P edn.2003.
Question: I just wonder if Roderick's info is correct and simply not mentioned in Tooley for not being too important?
In Tooley it is also mentioned that Pieter and his sister Colette went to England "as refugees". Refugees from what?
Jens P.Bornholt
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Paul van den Brink" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] Kaerius 2nd wife Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 22:29:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
L.S.
 
The best article on Van der Keere was written by Johannes Keuning (Imago Mundi, 1960, pp. 66-73); You should also consult the article by Van 'T Hoff "Grote Stadspanorama's, gegraveerd in Amsterdam sedert 1609" or the Monumenta Cartographica Neerlandica-series by Gunther Schilder, both of them with lots of details on his life. Even better: follow the references mentioned in our "Bibliografie van de Geschiedenis van de Kartografie in de Nederlanden" (Utrecht, 1993).
 
The Van der Keere family originated from the southern Netherlands. During the political controversies that preceded the fall of the city of Antwerp (that divided the Netherlands in a Northern (calvinist) and a Southern (catholic part) the Van der Keere's moved (as many artists did) for religious reasons first to London and later to Amsterdam. The best study on the evolvement of this emigration-process and, consequently, the rise of Amsterdam to an artistic and cartographic superpower is the brilliant work by J.G.C.A. Briels: Zuidnederlandse boekdrukkers en boekverkopers in de Republiek der Verenigde Nederlanden, omstreeks 1570-1630; een bijdrage tot de kennis van de geschiedenis van het boek. Nieuwkoop, 1974).
 
Paul van den Brink
University of Utrecht
The Netherlands
 
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:52:55 +0100 From: Z Shalev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Map coloring -- thanks X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Thanks for the few responses about map coloring. I can perhaps repay my debt by pointing you to J.-J. Rousseau's _Confessions_ (beginning of book V), where he confesses that while working as a secretary to Savoyard surveyors in Chambéry and color-washing their maps, he developed a taste for flower and landscape painting. "It is sad," Rousseau concludes, "that I have found very little talent in myself for this art." (Penguin Classics ed., tr. J.M. Cohen). Best, Zur -- Zur Shalev Visiting Research Scholar Modern History Faculty Oxford University _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Jens Bornholt" To: Subject: Re: [MapHist] Kaerius 2nd wife Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:22:42 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
thanks, Paul, for your reply.
Jens
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L.S.
 
The best article on Van der Keere was written by Johannes Keuning (Imago Mundi, 1960, pp. 66-73); You should also consult the article by Van 'T Hoff "Grote Stadspanorama's, gegraveerd in Amsterdam sedert 1609" or the Monumenta Cartographica Neerlandica-series by Gunther Schilder, both of them with lots of details on his life. Even better: follow the references mentioned in our "Bibliografie van de Geschiedenis van de Kartografie in de Nederlanden" (Utrecht, 1993).
 
The Van der Keere family originated from the southern Netherlands. During the political controversies that preceded the fall of the city of Antwerp (that divided the Netherlands in a Northern (calvinist) and a Southern (catholic part) the Van der Keere's moved (as many artists did) for religious reasons first to London and later to Amsterdam. The best study on the evolvement of this emigration-process and, consequently, the rise of Amsterdam to an artistic and cartographic superpower is the brilliant work by J.G.C.A. Briels: Zuidnederlandse boekdrukkers en boekverkopers in de Republiek der Verenigde Nederlanden, omstreeks 1570-1630; een bijdrage tot de kennis van de geschiedenis van het boek. Nieuwkoop, 1974).
 
Paul van den Brink
University of Utrecht
The Netherlands
 
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Huntington Library temporary closure; early maps posted online Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:11:41 -0700 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Huntington Library temporary closure; early maps posted online thread-index: AcR/N+ZvN8myGeqoEdiy5AABAps46w== From: "Frank, Bill" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Huntington Library temporary closure; early maps posted online

August 10, 2004

        Anyone planning a visit to the Huntington Library in San Marino, California, this fall should be aware that the Library will be entirely closed for research from Oct. 18 until Nov. 13 as we move into the new Munger Research Center.  Any requests by mail or e-mail for images of manuscripts from the library must be ordered and paid for by September 20.  After that, we will not be accepting photo requests until after the move is completed.  The exhibition hall and grounds will continue to be open on their normal schedule during the move.

        At the same time, the Huntington is pleased to announce that high resolution images of all our sixteenth- and early seventeenth-century manuscript charts and atlases are now available online through the Digital Scriptorium site: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/scriptorium/search/huntington.html .  The call numbers or shelfmarks of all the available charts and atlases, along with the geographical areas covered by each, can be found on "The Chart of the Portolan Atlases" at: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/scriptorium/hehweb/atchart.html .  Information concerning limits to use of the images and related text is posted at: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/scriptorium/copyright.html

        Please contact me directly concerning photo requests or any problems you may encounter accessing the online images and accompanying descriptions.

Bill Frank

William P. Frank
Curator
Hispanic, Cartographic,
  & Western Manuscripts
Huntington Library
1151 Oxford Rd.
San Marino, CA 91108
tel.: (626) 405-2122
fax: (626) 449-5720
e-mail: bfrank@huntington.org

X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:00:09 +0200 From: Dr.Zsolt Török Organization: Dept. of Cartography and Geoinformatics, ELTE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Banat on maps X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-0.001, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_44 -0.00 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Dear Sorin, After the recapture of the southern territories of the former Kingdom of Hungary from the Ottoman Empire, the region Banat (Romania) was formed and named after the 1718 peace of Pozarevac. At the same time the territory, Temeser Banat, became a military administrative territory of the Habsburg government in Vienna. The center of the region, consisting of 11 districts, was the city of Temeswar (Timisoara). This short historical note may explain why the region is named 'COMTÉ DE TEMESWAR' on Coronelli's 1687 one sheet map 'Le Royaume de Hongrie...' (later editions in 1704, 1742, 1788 (Paris) and 1794 (Venice). On da Vignola's map 'VNGARIA OCCIDENTALE...', published by Giacomo Rossi (Rome, 1683) the 'TEMESVENSIS COMITATUS' is still a reference to the former county of the Kingdom of Hungary. The name 'Temeser Banat', as official administrative name of the territory should be looked after on post 1718 maps. For the mapping history of the region, you find much information in the works on the history of Habsburg military surveys, another useful reference work: Irmédi-Molnár, László: A magyar kamara térképező munkái a Temesközben 1780-tól 1859-ig (Kartierungsarbeiten der Ungarischen Kammer im Temeser Banat (Temesköz) in den Jahren 1780-1859). In: Térképtudományi Tanulmányok/ Studia Cartologica, No. 1 (1958), p.5-89. Please, contact me off-list if you need further assistance, Regards, Zsolt Torok Department of Cartography and Geoinformatics Eötvös Loránd University Budapest, Hungary ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: S & L wrote: > > Dear List; > > Please allow introducing myself; I am a researcher and I live in Romania/ie > Timisoara Town in a region named BANAT [Some Basic Info on Banat are > to be found at http://www.genealogy.ro/cont/1.htm] in the SW part of today > Romania. > The historical Banat was almost a perfect square of 28.526 km2 in the > central SE of Europe and had the following natural boundaries: > -at N the Mures / Maros / Mieresch River; > -at E the foothills of the Carpati Mountains / Transylvanian Alps; > -at S the Dunarea / Danube / Donau River; > -and at W the Tisa / Tisza / Theiss / Theiß River. > > I am working to a book regarding the meaning of ban_Banat [ie ban as ruler > of an Banat] from our days until the ancient history of the region and I > have huge problems with accessing the foreign needed bibliography. > > One of the problems not solved yet by the historiography is the name of > BANAT. We do not know yet WHY, HOW and by WHOM this region was named this > way. At the end of the XVII century [~1680’s] the syntagm of "BANATUS > TIMISVARIENSIS PARS" is used for a region which, until then, was never named > in this way during the history. > > This is why I am very interested how was this region named in the maps done > during the period 1685-1695. > > First of all, I am interested how is named the region on Danube’s map done > in 1689 in Venice by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli [* 15/16.08.1650, Venice; † > 9.12.1718, Venice]: “Corso Del Danubio Da Vienna Sin’A Nicopoli E Paesi > Adiacenti ...” [six sheets each 61.5 x 45.5 cms., copperplate, uncoloured]. > > Then I would need badly some help in finding Giacomo Giovanni Rossi’s map > done in Rome in 1683: “Gesamtansichten von Temesvar in Rumänien, Vac > (Waitzen) in Ungarn, Filakovo (Filleck/Fülek) in der Slowakei u. Edirne > (Adrianopol) in der Türkei” [Kst. aus Teatro della guerra contro il Turco, > dove sono le piante, e le Vedute delle principali citta e ..., 39 x 52,5] > and to see if on this map the region is named somehow. > > Any help would be great, > > Sorin Fortiu > mbusines@banat.ro > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:32:54 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] very large cartifact X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from [eedson ] The Washington Post carried an article on August 1 describing "The World," a theme park being constructed in Dubai (United Arab Emirates). It is a collection of islands dredged out of the Persian Gulf and formed in the shape of the seven continents of the world. The islands will be sold to very wealthy people, and the whole thing should be visible from the air. Evelyn Edson Evelyn Edson, Professor of History Piedmont Virginia Community College 501 College Drive Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 961-5384 _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:50:24 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: List-owner MapHist Subject: [MapHist] Fwd: Origin of the word "Aspalaga" X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl [This message was sent to the wrong address, Peter] >From: "The Portolan Group-Phil Stover" >To: >Subject: Origin of the word "Aspalaga" >Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 14:22:51 -0400 > >Aspalaga was a settlement on the Apalachicola River in the panhandle of >Florida. It was also the name of an old Spanish Mission just east of >Tallahassee (St. Juan de Aspalaga). I have been unable to trace the >source of this word. Does anyone on this list know if it was a physical >location in Spain? > >I would appreciate any thoughts on the origins of this word. > >Phil Stover, President and Senior Partner >The Portolan Group http://www.portolangroup.com >Consultants in Educational Support Services >"An effective leader is like the pilot of a ship >at sea; he must have a helm to grasp, a course to >steer, a port to seek." - Adapted from Henry Adams _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:56:27 -0800 From: Dee Longenbaugh Subject: Re: [MapHist] Fwd: Origin of the word "Aspalaga" X-Sender: deelong@mail.gci.net To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl >>Phil Stover wondered: >> >>Aspalaga was a settlement on the Apalachicola River in the >>panhandle of Florida. It was also the name of an old Spanish >>Mission just east of Tallahassee (St. Juan de Aspalaga). I have >>been unable to trace the source of this word. Does anyone on this >>list know if it was a physical location in Spain? >> >>I would appreciate any thoughts on the origins of this word. >> Phil, a quick Google check shows various references to a location in northern Spain. Dee a geography buff -- The Observatory, ABAA 200 North Franklin Street Juneau, Alaska 99801 907/586-9676 fax 907/586-9606 deelong@alaska.com http://www.observatorybooks.com Since 1977 _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: jsk@pop.gamewood.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:26:44 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Joel Kovarsky Subject: Re: [MapHist] Fwd: Origin of the word "Aspalaga" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl At 11:56 AM 8/16/2004, you wrote:
Aspalaga was a settlement on the Apalachicola River in the panhandle of Florida.  It was also the name of an old Spanish Mission just east of Tallahassee (St. Juan de Aspalaga).  I have been unable to trace the source of this word.  Does anyone on this list know if it was a physical location in Spain?


It looks like the preferred name may be Ospalaga <http://www.getty.edu/vow/TGNServlet?nation=&english=Y&find=Aspalaga+&place=&page=1>, based on the Getty Thesaurus. If that is the case, it may correspond to a village of the Apalachee Indian Tribe <http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/florida/apalacheeindianhist.htm>, but the spelling and earlier derivation are another matter.

        Joel Kovarsky

X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:14:38 -0400 From: jsk@gamewood.net Subject: [MapHist] FUTON To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I have, recently and in my browsing of medical literature, come across the acronym FUTON: full text on web. The gist of the article was that virtually all web users, experienced or not, tend to peruse what is readily available. Not that this is different than in the past with books alone, but given ready web access for many people, there is a tendency to go for "low hanging fruit". Therein was the concern, given the various types of barriers to access to more reviewed literature, that there is an ongoing and unavoidable tendency to go for information that may, by academic consensus, be more poorly rated. This can affect both students and professors. This trend will likely continue, and the only way to combat it will be to improve general access to more sophisticated information. To condemn the information on the web, while justifiable in several circumstances, will not help with the issues of quality education. This must certainly affect many of those on this list. I do not believe this observation is novel, but any attempts to remove accessibility barriers to varied types of previously sequestered information is likely to help all concerned. Joel Kovarsky _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Subject: Re: [MapHist] FUTON To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Cc: maphist@geog.uu.nl, owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 From: "ahudson" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:20:19 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on MHTMAIL02/MHT/Nypl(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 08/19/2004 02:20:21 PM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Joel, et. al., Many full text resources are on web, so the prospect of more and more full text materials is very positive. See the list of full text materials available via www.nypl.org at the Selected Electronic Resources site. Full-Text Resources Full-Text Journals A-Z EBSCO Research Databases ProQuest Research Library JSTOR Project Muse New York Times If you cannot get access to these via NYPL, you can get access to them via some other library to which you have access, either your local public library, state library, local university library or your own university or college library, to which as a graduate or student you might have access. I have also found that authors for whose works I am searching sometimes have full text on their own websites, even if the journal their works appear in is not yet full text. I personally would not use the suggested acronym, as the value and point of full text itself is hidden in the acronym. Alice C. Hudson Chief, Map Division The Humanities and Social Sciences Library The New York Public Library 5th Avenue & 42nd Street, Room 117 New York, NY 10018-2788 ahudson@nypl.org; 212-930-0589; fax 212-930-0027 http://nypl.org/research/chss/map/map.html The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit. - Nelson Henderson jsk@gamewood.net Sent by: To: maphist@geog.uu.nl owner-maphist@pop cc: .geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] FUTON 08/19/2004 02:14 PM Please respond to maphist I have, recently and in my browsing of medical literature, come across the acronym FUTON: full text on web. The gist of the article was that virtually all web users, experienced or not, tend to peruse what is readily available. Not that this is different than in the past with books alone, but given ready web access for many people, there is a tendency to go for "low hanging fruit". Therein was the concern, given the various types of barriers to access to more reviewed literature, that there is an ongoing and unavoidable tendency to go for information that may, by academic consensus, be more poorly rated. This can affect both students and professors. This trend will likely continue, and the only way to combat it will be to improve general access to more sophisticated information. To condemn the information on the web, while justifiable in several circumstances, will not help with the issues of quality education. This must certainly affect many of those on this list. I do not believe this observation is novel, but any attempts to remove accessibility barriers to varied types of previously sequestered information is likely to help all concerned. Joel Kovarsky _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:27:39 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] antique map (of 1946, value asked) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from ["Elizabeth Whelan" ] Subject: antique map Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:34:19 -0700 Hello, Could some please tell me how to find the value of a us army corp of engineers world map(mercator's projection) from 1946. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. elizabeth whelan _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: F.Herbert@RGS.org To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: RE: [MapHist] antique map (of 1946, value asked) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:39:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Perhaps along with some other MapHist subscribers I would suggest this might be best answered through 'MAPS-L' list (bursting with North American map librarians). And, anyway: what is the title, scale, and general physical condition? Enquire through its moderator, Johnnie Sutherland, e-mail: Johnnie D. Sutherland [jsutherl@uga.edu] Francis Herbert f.herbert@rgs.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl [mailto:owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl] Sent: 23 August 2004 17:28 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] antique map (of 1946, value asked) Non-member submission from ["Elizabeth Whelan" ] Subject: antique map Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:34:19 -0700 Hello, Could some please tell me how to find the value of a us army corp of engineers world map(mercator's projection) from 1946. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. elizabeth whelan _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:13:45 -0400 From: overlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl, maptrade@raremaps.com, mapcollector@antiquemapdealers.com, Discovery & Exploration mailing list , S_Otterstrom@byu.edu, H-HISTGEOG@H-NET.MSU.EDU Subject: [MapHist] Book Catalogue X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [141.154.148.254] at Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:11:06 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Overlee Farm Books announces that Catalogue 51 containing more than six hundred titles in cartography, geography, voyages, travel, discovery, exploration, nautical and maritime will be available in September.  If you have never received a catalogue and would like to, please e-mail your request to overlee@verizon.netPLEASE DO NOT USE YOUR E-MAIL REPLY FUNCTION TO RESPOND TO THIS ANNOUNCEMENT; MAKE SURE YOUR MESSAGE COMES TO US AND IS NOT SENT TO THE ENTIRE LIST.   Thank you---and please excuse cross-posting.
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:38:04 -0500 From: Angie Cope Organization: American Geographical Society Library User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist Subject: [MapHist] Map Maker series on the History Channel coming X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Hello everyone. I just noticed that the History Channel -- in the US -- is airing their Time Machine, Map Maker series. Below is the link to their web site as well as the schedule of programs. I assume the times are Eastern Standard -- perhaps check your local listings. http://www.historychannel.com/global/listings/listings_search.jsp Thu, September 2 8-9pm Time Machine The Mapmakers: America, the Birth of a Continent Thu, September 2 9-10pm Time Machine The Mapmakers: The Mystery of the Mercator Atlas Thu, September 2 10-11pm Time Machine The Mapmakers: The D-Day Invasion Maps Fri, September 3 12-1am Time Machine The Mapmakers: America, the Birth of a Continent Fri, September 3 1-2am Time Machine The Mapmakers: The Mystery of the Mercator Atlas Fri, September 3 2-3am Time Machine The Mapmakers: The D-Day Invasion Maps -- ************************************************** ANGELA R. COPE, Academic Map Librarian American Geographical Society Library UW Milwaukee Libraries 2311 E. Hartford Avenue Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53211 http://www.uwm.edu/Libraries/AGSL/index.html Hours: 8:00am-4:30pm acope@uwm.edu (414) 229-6282 (800) 558-8993 (US TOLL FREE) (414) 229-3624 (FAX) ************************************************** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: GMsVY5Skz2Fe/l7eKz6rGTB7ktzH+hDY39Bi3mkC095wGX2nxxeTjA== X-Sender: sanderva@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:30:34 -0400 To: From: WMS Web Subject: [MapHist] "The Portolan" (Washington Map Society) - Issue 60 - FRUMIN on Russian Mapping Activities in the late 18th Century; STEPHENSON on General Lee's Forgotten Mapmaker; PFLEDERER on Portolan charts; GAVISH on experimental cartography in the 1915-1918 Palestine Campaign; KUMLER's bio sketch of Willem Janzoon Blaeu; four book/CD reviews; and more. X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl With the demise of "Mercator's World," “The Portolan” is the only journal published in North America dedicated to supporting and promoting map collecting, cartography, and cartographic history.  This is the Portolan’s 20th Anniversary issue.
 
"The Portolan" has been published since 1984 and welcomes you to investigate and try this thrice-yearly journal with articles on maps, the history of cartography, and exploration.  Below is information on the issue just published.  See the end of this message for the link to the contents list of all back issues and an index to those issues.  You will see that the focus of the society and the journal is not solely Washington.  There is something for YOU in this journal.
 
"THE PORTOLAN": JOURNAL OF THE WASHINGTON MAP SOCIETY
ISSUE 60 (Fall 2004)
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Issue 60 (Fall 2004), consisting of 80 pages, was published in August 2004 and has been sent to all subscribers and members in good standing of the Washington Map Society. Copies are available for purchase.
 
MITIA FRUMIN’s article on Russian Navy mapping activities in the eastern and southern Mediterranean (late 18th century) earned honorable mention in the 2003 competition for the Ristow Prize for Cartographic History and Map Librarianship.  DICK STEPHENSON traces the little known story of Major Albert H. Campbell, a key cartographer working for General Robert E. Lee during the American Civil War. DICK PFLEDERER clearly presents the story of Portolan charts and relates the results of his research on these maps at several renowned libraries.  DOV GAVISH relates the story of some interesting innovations used by the British as they mapped Palestine from 1915-1918. MARK KUMLER presents a brief biography of renowned mapmaker Willem Janzoon Blaeu.  A summary is presented of the Washington Map Society’s 25th anniversary events of May 2004.  BERT JOHNSON gives a preview of ICHC 2005 in Budapest. An alert is given to the September 2 and 3 shows on TV’s History Channel which are featuring mapmakers. TOM SANDER describes a meeting of map aficionados in Brussels and a visit to the National Library of China.  Three books and a map CD-ROM are reviewed.  And there is more. "The Portolan" is published three times per year; issue 61 is due for release in late December 2004.
 
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CONTENTS OF ISSUE 60 – Fall 2004
 
ARTICLES
“Russian Navy Mapping Activities in the Eastern and Southern Mediterranean (Late 18th Century)”  by Mitia Frumin (This paper is the winner of Honorable Mention in the 2003 Ristow Prize for Cartographic History and Map Librarianship.)
“General Lee’s Forgotten Mapmaker: Major Albert H. Campbell and the Department of Northern Virginia’s Topographical Department” by Richard W. Stephenson
“Portolan Charts: The Key to Navigation in the Mediterranean and Beyond” By Richard Pflederer
“Experimental Cartography in the Palestine Campaign, 1915-1918” by Dov Gavish
“’In der Vergulde Sonnewijser’ (In the Golden Sundial): a Biography of Willem Janszoon Blaeu (1571-1638’)” by Mark P. Kumler
 
RECENT PUBLICATIONS
A regular feature in 'The Portolan,' this is a bibliographic listing of articles and books appearing worldwide on antique maps and globes and the history of cartography. By Eric W. Wolf.
 
BOOK/ MAP REVIEWS
“A Railroad Atlas of the United States in 1946 (Volume 1 – The Mid-Atlantic States)” (Reviewer: John F. Baesch)
“Journey into Africa: The Life and Death of Keith Johnston, Scottish Cartographer and Explorer (1844-79)” (Reviewer:  Wulf Bodenstein)
“Late 19th Century Atlases of Massachusetts Counties on CD – 1876 F. W. Beers Atlas of Essex County” CD-ROM (Reviewer: Clarence E. Kylander)
“The Road to There: Mapmakers and their Stories”  (Reviewer: Marianne M. McKee)
 
SHORTER ITEMS
1. Washington Map Society Meetings, September 2004 - January 2005.
2. Exhibitions and Meetings.
3. WMS 25th Anniversary Symposium and Celebration – May 20-22, 2004. by Thomas F. Sander
4.  2005 Ristow Prize Competition.
5.  “ICHC 2005 in Budapest” by Bert Johnson
6.  “The Map Makers” – on the TV History Channel
7.  BIMCC  6th Anniversary Meeting in Brussels by Thomas F. Sander
8.  Maps at the National Library of China by Thomas F. Sander
9.  Spotlight on the WMS Membership: McAuliffe, Pool, Severy
10.  Map Site Seeing: Key World Wide Web map sites.
11.  Cartographic Notes.  By Thomas F. Sander.
 
AUTHORS OF ARTICLES AND REVIEWS IN THIS ISSUE
DR. MITIA FRUMIN, cited for honorable mention in the 2003 Ristow Prize competition, is working on a second Ph.D project in Historic Geography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
RICHARD W. STEPHENSON, an authority on American cartographic history with 45 years service at the Library of Congress, is co-editor of “Virginia in Maps.”
RICHARD PFLEDERER, retired from a career in international business, is adjunct professor at Old Dominion University. His intense research of Portolan charts led to the publication of numerous articles and also the book “Portolan Charts and Atlases of the British Library.” 
DR. DOV GAVISH is head of the Historical Aerial Photograph Archives, Department of Geography, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
MARK P. KUMLER is associate professor of Geography at California State University San Bernardino.
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The University of Texas at Arlington (UTA) is are pleased to invite you to the Fourth Biennial Virginia Garrett Lectures on the History of Cartography on Friday, October 1, 2004, and the Annual Fall Meeting of the Texas Map Society (TMS) on Saturday, October 2, 2004, featuring two days of map presentations by World Class Scholars, Authors, and Collectors. In addition, there will be an Exhibition Opening and Reception. Both meetings will be held on the sixth floor of the Central Library at The University of Texas at Arlington (UTA) located at 702 College Street, Arlington, Texas.  The UTA campus is home to the Virginia Garrett Cartographic History Library and is located centrally in the Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas, metropolitan area.

 

The artistry and beauty of maps is the theme of the Garrett Lectures, which is entitled "Mapmaker's Vision, Beholder's Eyes: The Art of Maps." Speakers Dennis Reinhartz (University of Texas at Arlington), Patricia Gilmartin (University of South Carolina), Denis Cosgrove (UCLA), Lucia Nuti (University of Pisa), and David Buisseret (University of Texas at Arlington) will explore the many ways in which maps reflect the connection between cartography and art. This not only includes those maps that are depicted in works of art from Renaissance paintings to modern post cards, but also the way artists actually create works of art that are, in effect, maps. These lectures build on an enduring theme, for throughout history, there has been a close relationship between maps and art. The lectures will also illustrate the strong connection between the science of mapmaking and the creative and artistic expression that mapmakers bring to their work.

 

In addition to the Virginia Garrett lectures on October 1, the Texas Map Society will hold its fall meeting at UTA on Saturday, October 2. Speakers include Stuart Gleichenhaus (Dallas Collector), Murray Hudson (Tennessee Map Dealer), Alex Hunnicutt, Graig Shupee and Alistair Maeer (University of Texas at Arlington Doctoral Candidates), and a panel discussion with Gervais Bell (Houston Collector), Murray Hudson (Tennessee Map Dealer), Russell L. Martin ( Director of SMU's DeGolyer Library), moderated by John Martin Davis, Jr. ( Dallas Collector).

 

 

The registration fee for the lectures is $45 and includes lunch, a reception, and dinner. Those who plan to attend the Texas Map Society meeting on October 2 can register for both events for a total of $80.  The Garrett Lectures are underwritten, in part, by the Virginia Garrett Cartographic History Endowment.

 

For registration and more information about the Virginia Garrett Lectures and the Texas Map Society, please contact Kit Goodwin, Cartographic Archivist for Special Collections, at 817-272-5329 (voice), 817-272-3360 (fax), or goodwin@uta.edu. Information and registration form area available online at: http://libraries.uta.edu/SpecColl/Garrett%20Lectures%202004/Intro2004.htm

 

 

X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:00:53 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] Employment position available X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from ["Raremaps.com Orders Department" ] Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:12:25 -0700 From: "Raremaps.com Orders Department" Digital Imaging and Technical Support Position Barry Lawrence Ruderman Antique Maps, Inc. 1298 Prospect 2 C La Jolla, CA. 92037 858 551 8500 Fax 858 551 8593 DIGITAL IMAGING AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT POSITION Job Description: Retail Gallery and Internet Seller of Antique Maps and Books seeking full or part time assistant This position provides digital photography and/or scanning of antique maps, finishing work in Adobe Photoshop, in support of the gallery website, general gallery and sales support customer servicing receiving and shipping. This position reports to the Gallery Manager. Duties: Duties include the following: Scanning and photographing antique maps, finishing work in Adobe Photoshop, transferring images to the gallery website; packing and shipping maps; assisting the Gallery Manager with walk-in customers when needed; placing maps into the map inventory system; processing internet sales orders and other duties as required. Skills and Knowledge: Background in computers, photography and computer graphic arts highly desirable. Classroom experience accepted. Competence in Adobe PhotoShop, Microsoft Word and Digit Camera Operation preferred .Familiarity with Microsoft Access or other similar database software useful but not essential. Good people skills, correspondence skills and experience in customer service desirable. Organizational skills a must. Working Hours: 20-40 hours per week. Some Weekend Hours may be available. Hourly Wage based upon education and experience. To apply: Please send a resume by mail or fax. Position Availability: Immediately Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:02:15 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" ] Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400 I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = table globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = 1619, but indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Dekker and van = der Krogt both state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the basis for this dating? It's pretty clear that the = globes couldn't have been made prior to the Hondius 1618 globe (from = which much of the Habrecht is derived) but how late did this globe run?=20 The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 = and in van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = Stevenson pp. 50-53 Any insights would be welcome.=20 James _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:27:49 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I forwarded this message this afternoon to the list, not realising that at least I was supposed to give a reaction! I must confess, I can't remember why I dated this globe 1621 in my Old Globes. I hope the fact that my research for this book was over 20 years ago and that I later only studied Dutch globes, no Habrecht, counts as an excuse. Elly Dekker probably followed me. In the literature I refer to a work by Th. Ungerer, Les Habrecht (Strasbourg 1925). Maybe that is the work where I have this date from? Peter At 15:02 28-8-2004, you wrote: >Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" ] > >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400 > >I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = >table globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = >1619, but indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Dekker and van = >der Krogt both state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = >anybody know the basis for this dating? It's pretty clear that the = >globes couldn't have been made prior to the Hondius 1618 globe (from = >which much of the Habrecht is derived) but how late did this globe run?=20 > >The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 = >and in van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = >Stevenson pp. 50-53 > >Any insights would be welcome.=20 > >James > >_______________________________________________________________ >MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography >hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. >The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of >the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of >Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for >the views of the author. >List Information: http://www.maphist.info YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dr Peter van der Krogt Map Historian, Explokart Research Program Faculty of Geo-sciences, University of Utrecht P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands e-mail: peter@vanderkrogt.net Homepage: MapHist: Genealogy: Elementymology: Columbus Monuments: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. 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At least two earlier scholars, before van der Krogt, assigned a date of 1621 to the first state of Habrecht's 20 cm pair of globes:

(1)  In Astronomische Instrumente ... (1956) [pp. 349-350), Ernst Zinner appears to assign a date of 1621 to both globes but seems to note that the positions of stars on the celestial globe are calculated for the year 1625 (most celestial globes have always had star positions calculated for a future date because the precession of the equinoxes would otherwise cause the star positions to become noticeably inaccurate at an earlier date).

(2)  In Altere Erd- und Himmelsgloben in Bayern (1964) (p. 94), Alois Fauser assigns a *specific* date of 1621 to the terrestrial globe, and a *circa date* of 1625 for the celestial globe. 

Best,
Jaron Davis


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I forwarded this message this afternoon to the list, not realising that at
least I was supposed to give a reaction!

I must confess, I can't remember why I dated this globe 1621 in my Old
Globes. I hope the fact that my research for this book was over 20 years
ago and that I later only studied Dutch globes, no Habrecht, counts as an
excuse. Elly Dekker probably followed me.

In the literature I refer to a work by Th. Ungerer, Les Habrecht
(Strasbourg 1925). Maybe that is the work where I have this date from?

Peter

At 15:02 28-8-2004, you wrote:
>Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" <jroy@martayanlan.com>]
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400
>
>I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small =
>table globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to =
>1619, but indicates 1625 for other examples of the same;  Dekker and van =
>der Krogt both state that these globes were published in 1621; Does =
>anybody know the basis for this dating? It's pretty clear that the =
>globes couldn't have been made prior to the Hondius 1618 globe (from =
>which much of the Habrecht is derived) but how late did this globe run?=20
>
>The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 =
>and in van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. =
>Stevenson pp. 50-53
>
>Any insights would be welcome.=20
>
>James
>
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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? From: To: Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Just a small additional comment. Ena Yonge's "A Catalogue of Early Maps" American Geological Society, 1968, lists the 21 cm Terrestrial Globe by Habrecht in the collection of the Hispanic Society of America as "ca. 1619". Don McGuirk > Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" ] > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400 > > I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = table > globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = 1619, but > indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Dekker and van = der Krogt both > state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the basis for > this dating? It's pretty clear that the = globes couldn't have been made prior to > the Hondius 1618 globe (from = which much of the Habrecht is derived) but how late > did this globe run?=20 > > The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 = and in > van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = Stevenson pp. 50-53 > > Any insights would be welcome.=20 > > James > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The > statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do > not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of > Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:27:24 -0400 From: overlee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [141.154.147.89] at Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:24:41 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Don:  Aren't you referring to "A Catalogue of Early Globes...," American Geographical Society?  Martin Torodash

mcguirk1492@pol.net wrote:
     Just a small additional comment. Ena Yonge's "A Catalogue of Early Maps" American Geological Society, 1968, lists the 21 cm Terrestrial Globe by Habrecht in the collection of the Hispanic Society of America as "ca. 1619".


Don McGuirk



  
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400

I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = table globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = 1619, but indicates 1625 for other examples of the same;  Dekker and van = der Krogt both state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the basis for this dating? It's pretty clear that the = globes couldn't have been made prior to the Hondius 1618 globe (from = which much of the Habrecht is derived) but how late did this globe run?=20

The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 = and in van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = Stevenson pp. 50-53

Any insights would be welcome.=20

James

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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 09:32:50 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Jaron has right - I have used Zinner and Fauser and they will be the source for that date, for me and also for Elly Dekker. Thanks for the update of my memory! But the original question still stands (I copy James' question with change of names): "Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = 1619, but indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Zinner and Fauser both state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the basis for this dating?" :-) Peter At 21:43 28-8-2004, you wrote: >At least two earlier scholars, before van der Krogt, assigned a date of >1621 to the first state of Habrecht's 20 cm pair of globes: > >(1) In Astronomische Instrumente ... (1956) [pp. 349-350), Ernst Zinner >appears to assign a date of 1621 to both globes but seems to note that the >positions of stars on the celestial globe are calculated for the year 1625 >(most celestial globes have always had star positions calculated for a >future date because the precession of the equinoxes would otherwise cause >the star positions to become noticeably inaccurate at an earlier date). > >(2) In Altere Erd- und Himmelsgloben in Bayern (1964) (p. 94), Alois >Fauser assigns a *specific* date of 1621 to the terrestrial globe, and a >*circa date* of 1625 for the celestial globe. > >Best, >Jaron Davis > YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dr Peter van der Krogt Map Historian, Explokart Research Program Faculty of Geo-sciences, University of Utrecht P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands e-mail: peter@vanderkrogt.net Homepage: MapHist: Genealogy: Elementymology: Columbus Monuments: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 08:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? From: To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Martin, Sorry for the mistake. Correction noted. You can tell I'm a MAP collector, not a Globe collector. Don McGuirk > Don: Aren't you referring to "A Catalogue of Early Globes...," American > Geographical Society? Martin Torodash > > mcguirk1492@pol.net wrote: > >> Just a small additional comment. Ena Yonge's "A Catalogue of Early Maps" >>American Geological Society, 1968, lists the 21 cm Terrestrial Globe by Habrecht >> in the collection of the Hispanic Society of America as "ca. 1619". >> >> >>Don McGuirk >> >> >> >> >> >>>Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" ] >>> >>>Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400 >>> >>>I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = table >>> globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = 1619, but >>> indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Dekker and van = der Krogt both >>> state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the basis >>> for this dating? It's pretty clear that the = globes couldn't have been made >>> prior to the Hondius 1618 globe (from = which much of the Habrecht is derived) >>> but how late did this globe run?=20 >>> >>>The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 = and in >>> van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = Stevenson pp. 50-53 >>> >>>Any insights would be welcome.=20 >>> >>>James >>> >>>_______________________________________________________________ >>>MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography >>>hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The >>> statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do >>> not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of >>> Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List >>> Information: http://www.maphist.info >>> >>> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________________________ >>MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography >>hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The >> statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do >> not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of >> Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. >>List Information: http://www.maphist.info >> >> _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Lutz Walter" To: Subject: [MapHist] Mapping of the Pacific Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:44:15 +0900 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl new bookDear Maphisters, As far as I can see Tom Suarez's new book "Early Mapping of the Pacific" has not yet been mentioned on this list. I just have received a copy and can only say, it is the most beautiful book on maps I have seen so far (fellow authors, please, no offence intended), a feast for the eye and for the mind. Lutz Walter 7-5-56 Akasaka Minato-ku Tokyo 107-0052 Japan ----- Original Message ----- From: maptrade@antiquaries.com To: maptrade@raremaps.com Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:08 AM Subject: new book Tuttle Publishing has just released tom Suarez' new book Mapping of the Pacific. In my opinion it is a "must" for every serious map collector. A staggering effort that resulted in a stunning book. see: www.pacific-islands.org Frank _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:54:38 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Submission from ["Judith A. Leimer" ] I am deeply saddened to report the death of David Woodward, co-founder of the History of Cartography series and Arthur H. Robinson Professor Emeritus of Geography at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. David died of cancer Wednesday night at his home in Madison, Wisconsin. His passing was peaceful and he was surrounded by his family. In spite of his many accomplishments, David was an unassuming man. His family members have assured me that the prayers, kind thoughts, and personal tributes that friends and colleagues sent this summer touched and sustained him at the end. We will all miss him greatly. David made it clear that he wanted the History of Cartography to be completed. All our energies are devoted to that goal. A memorial celebration of David's life and work will be held in Madison in six to eight weeks' time. Details will be posted to MapHist as soon as they are finalized. Condolences may be sent to Rosalind Woodward and family, 1443 Mound Street, Madison, WI 53711, USA. Jude Leimer Managing Editor, History of Cartography Project _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:21:03 +0300 From: Karen Pinto Organization: American University of Beirut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward--Day of Mourning X-AUBnet-Receipt: europanew.aub.edu.lb at 2004-08-29 20:08:52 X-AUBnet-Osender: kp02@aub.edu.lb X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Dear Maphisters, This news has come as a big shock to me and I am deeply saddened by David Woodward's early death. I had no idea he was this sick. Is this why he retired early? I really do hope that his dream for HoC is realized. I suggest that we declare a day of mourning on maphist and devote all postings to the memory of David Woodward. I only met David a couple of times at HoC conferences. But we were in touch by e-mail and I will remember him as one of the kinder, gentler doyens of the history of cartography. He was generous and supportive of my work on Islamic cartography and I will never forget this. In particular, he did a lot to support the work of young promising scholars through grants from the Friends of J. B. Harley society. Perhaps Peter can put together the postings on David Woodward on Maphist and send them to his wife. With much sadness, Karen Pinto by way of List-owner MapHist wrote: > Submission from ["Judith A. Leimer" ] > > I am deeply saddened to report the death of David Woodward, co-founder of > the History of Cartography series and Arthur H. Robinson Professor > Emeritus > of Geography at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. David died of cancer > Wednesday night at his home in Madison, Wisconsin. His passing was > peaceful > and he was surrounded by his family. > > In spite of his many accomplishments, David was an unassuming man. His > family members have assured me that the prayers, kind thoughts, and > personal tributes that friends and colleagues sent this summer touched and > sustained him at the end. We will all miss him greatly. > > David made it clear that he wanted the History of Cartography to be > completed. All our energies are devoted to that goal. > > A memorial celebration of David's life and work will be held in Madison in > six to eight weeks' time. Details will be posted to MapHist as soon as > they > are finalized. > > Condolences may be sent to Rosalind Woodward and family, 1443 Mound > Street, > Madison, WI 53711, USA. > > > Jude Leimer > Managing Editor, History of Cartography Project > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: docktor@pop.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:53:54 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "John W. Docktor" Subject: Re: [MapHist] Mapping of the Pacific Cc: mail@cosmography.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl At 10:44 PM 8/29/2004 +0900, you wrote: >new bookDear Maphisters, > >As far as I can see Tom Suarez's new book "Early Mapping of the Pacific" has >not yet been mentioned on this list. I just have received a copy and can >only say, it is the most beautiful book on maps I have seen so far (fellow >authors, please, no offence intended), a feast for the eye and for the mind. > >Lutz Walter Anyone in Washington on October 28 is invited to a meeting of the Washington Map Society at 7PM in the Geography and Map Division of the Library of Congress. Thomas Suarez will discuss the cartographic formation of the Pacific Ocean during the period 1490 through 1550, based on his new book, "Early Mapping of the Pacific." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John W. Docktor Phone: 717-846-8997 Fax: 717-845-9337 Cartography - Calendars of Events & Exhibitions: http://www.docktor.com/ Washington Map Society: http://www.washmap.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:54:39 +1000 From: Robert Cribb X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Projected conference: early mapping of Australia X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl In 2006, Australia will mark the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival by a Western ship on the shores of Australia. The Duyfken, under Willem Jansz., reached the west coast of what is now Cape York Peninsula, a few months before Torres passed through the Strait now bearing his name. One of the planned activities to mark this anniversary will be a conference on the issue of still earlier contacts with the continent. The aim of the conference is to review the evidence for earlier Portuguese, Chinese and other encounters with Australia before 1606 (bearing in mind all along that the Aborigines were here long before). The conference will take place in Canberra in April or May 2006. This is a preliminary call for expressions of interest in presenting a paper at that conference. The reason for asking for interest now is that with some good names it should be possible to summon up the funds for a number of airfares. We need some responses before the end of the week (which means in effect Wednesday for people in the US whose time zone is so far behind ours....). We can't guarantee funding yet, but at least some proposals will help us to set the ball rolling. Best wishes Robert -- Robert Cribb Pacific and Asian History, RSPAS The Australian National University Canberra ACT 0200, Australia Tel. +61 2 6125 4247 Fax +61 2 6125 5525 e-mail robert.cribb@anu.edu.au _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: krogt@pop.geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:05:40 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of Peter van der Krogt ) Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward--Day of Mourning X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from [James Enterline ] Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:38:21 -0400 I join Karen and I'm sure many others in expressing my shock at David Woodward's passing. I was so looking forward to many further fascinating discussions with him which will now never occur. In all our past discussions he had been supportive and open-minded, and most of all, friendly, ever since he and I first crossed paths at the New York Public Library in the 1960's (fresh from the British Isles, he was interviewing with Gerard Alexander). He now joins Brian and Gary, who were all taken from us untimely. With sympathy to Rosalind, Jim Enterline At 08:21 PM 08/29/04 +0300, you wrote: >Dear Maphisters, > >This news has come as a big shock to me and I am deeply saddened by David >Woodward's early death. >I had no idea he was this sick. Is this why he retired early? >I really do hope that his dream for HoC is realized. > _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "van der heijden" To: Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:23:15 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
The sad tidings of David Woodward's sudden death have moved me beyond expression. I have always been a great admirer of his work and sympathize with his family.
Henk van der Heijden
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:55:29 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl (by way of List-owner MapHist ) Subject: [MapHist] MapHist - David Woodward X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Non-member submission from ["Patrizia" ] We will all miss David Woodward greatly here in Italy too. But we have = his wonderful books which will always speak of him! Please, accept my deepest condolences. Patrizia Licini Prof.ssa Patrizia Licini (Universit=E0 degli Studi di Macerata - Sede di Fermo) via Tommaso Grossi 10 21047 Saronno (VA) Italia _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: seaver@seaver.pobox.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:45:31 -0700 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Paul S. Seaver" Subject: Re: [MapHist] MapHist - David Woodward X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Patricia Lizini's message echoes my own reaction upon learning of David Woodward's death, because it stresses the legacy that David left behind. While we mourn his passing, we may also celebrate his productive and generous life. Kirsten A. Seaver Palo Alto, California, U.S.A. >Non-member submission from ["Patrizia" ] > >We will all miss David Woodward greatly here in Italy too. But we have = >his wonderful books which will always speak of him! >Please, accept my deepest condolences. Patrizia Licini > > >Prof.ssa Patrizia Licini >(Universit=E0 degli Studi di Macerata - Sede di Fermo) >via Tommaso Grossi 10 >21047 Saronno (VA) >Italia -- _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] Cartogram generation / Dampier book Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:55:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl In the latest (August 28, 2004, v.166 #9) SCIENCE NEWS on pp.136-37 is an article by Ivars Peterson, "A Better Distorted View," on the creation of cartograms using diffisuion equations from physics. On p.143 is a short review of A PIRATE OF EXQUISITE MIND; EXPLORER, NATURALIST, AND BUCANNEER: THE LIFE OF WILLIAM DAMPIER by Diana & Michael Preston (Walker, 2004). JBP _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] SCIENCE NEWS website Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:23:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl The URL for the SCIENCE NEWS website is http://www.sciencenews.org . I checked earlier this evening and the article on disproportionate mapping was included. JBP _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: psellin@mail.ucla.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:04:42 -0700 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Paul Sellin Subject: Re: [MapHist] Habrecht 1621 Globes: Why 1621? X-Probable-Spam: no X-Spam-Hits: 0 X-Scanned-By: smtp.ucla.edu X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl At 04:10 PM 8/28/2004, you wrote: > Just a small additional comment. Ena Yonge's "A Catalogue of Early Maps" >American Geological Society, 1968, lists the 21 cm Terrestrial Globe by >Habrecht in the collection of the Hispanic Society of America as "ca. 1619". > > >Don McGuirk > > > > > Non-member submission from ["James William Roy" ] > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:25:21 -0400 > > > > I have a question for the list in regard to Isaac Habrecht II's small = > table > > globe pair: Stevenson dates the earliest of Habrecht's globes to = > 1619, but > > indicates 1625 for other examples of the same; Dekker and van = der > Krogt both > > state that these globes were published in 1621; Does = anybody know the > basis for > > this dating? It's pretty clear that the = globes couldn't have been > made prior to > > the Hondius 1618 globe (from = which much of the Habrecht is derived) > but how late > > did this globe run?=20 > > > > The globes in question appear in Dekker's Globes at Greenwich, pp349-50 > = and in > > van der Krogt's Old Globes in the Netherlands pp. 137-40. = Stevenson > pp. 50-53 > > > > Any insights would be welcome.=20 > > > > James > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The > > statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the > author and do > > not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The > University of > > Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography >hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. >The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of >the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of >Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for >the views of the author. >List Information: http://www.maphist.info _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Ashley Baynton-Williams" To: "Maphist" Subject: [MapHist] MapForum Issue 2 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:13:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl
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X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Alexey Postnikov Subject: Re: [MapHist] MapHist - David Woodward Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:50:47 +0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl All Russian historians of cartography, and me especially morn the untimely demise of David Woodward. We send our heartfelt condolences to his family. David's life will be for all researchers to come an excellent example of faithful and brilliant labour for science and education. Alexey Alexey V. Postnikov (Professor, Doctor of Science) Chair ICA Commission on the History of Cartography The Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation Corresponding member International Academy of the History of Science (Paris) European Academy of Sciences (Brussels) Deputy Director Russian Academy of Sciences' Institute of the History of Science and Technology 1/5 Staropansky St. Moscow 109012 Russia Phone: (7-095)-925-70-03 (office) Fax: (7-095)-925-99-11 E-mail: apostnik@ihst.ru X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:56:22 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: List-owner MapHist Subject: [MapHist] RA de Villard's map of the Yangtze River from mouth to source in 13 sheets. X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Message from Ken Atherton , sent to the wrong address: Can anyone help Fraser (stuart.morningfield@btinternet.com)? ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Dear Sirs, I am a retired shipmaster,a member of the Society for Nautical Research and the Royal Scottish Geographical Society.I have been researching the history of British ships and mariners on the China Coast and the the Yangtze River in particular.R.A.de Villard a German national was employed as a stamp designer by the Chinese Customs but in 1895 he produced a set of 13 maps of the Yangtze from the mouth to source and I believe these maps were some of the first to be produced of the Yangtze by a foreigner. I have contacted many sources in the U.K. for background information on de Villard but from apart confirming that he did produce the maps the BL,the Hydrographic Office National Maritime Museum ,Royal Geographical Society and National Archives knew nothing about him.I did get some information from the Royal Philatelic Society on his career as a stamp designer but they were not aware he produced maps. If you can provide me with any information about de Villard and how he came to produce his maps I would very grateful' Yours faithfully, Fraser Stuart, 43 Morningfield Road, Aberdeen, AB15 4AP -- Ken Atherton British Cartographic Society Administration 12 Elworthy Drive Wellington Somerset TA21 9AT UK Tel/Fax 01823 665 775 http://www.cartography.org.uk This message is intended only for the use of the individual(s) to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: richard.lee@amd.com To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] RA de Villard's map of the Yangtze River from mouth to source in 13 sheets. Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:58:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 6D2A9435132950-01-01 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Hi how can I be removed from your mailking list? Thanks Richard -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: List-owner MapHist To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Sent: Tue Aug 31 10:56:22 2004 Subject: [MapHist] RA de Villard's map of the Yangtze River from mouth to source in 13 sheets. Message from Ken Atherton , sent to the wrong address: Can anyone help Fraser (stuart.morningfield@btinternet.com)? ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Dear Sirs, I am a retired shipmaster,a member of the Society for Nautical Research and the Royal Scottish Geographical Society.I have been researching the history of British ships and mariners on the China Coast and the the Yangtze River in particular.R.A.de Villard a German national was employed as a stamp designer by the Chinese Customs but in 1895 he produced a set of 13 maps of the Yangtze from the mouth to source and I believe these maps were some of the first to be produced of the Yangtze by a foreigner. I have contacted many sources in the U.K. for background information on de Villard but from apart confirming that he did produce the maps the BL,the Hydrographic Office National Maritime Museum ,Royal Geographical Society and National Archives knew nothing about him.I did get some information from the Royal Philatelic Society on his career as a stamp designer but they were not aware he produced maps. If you can provide me with any information about de Villard and how he came to produce his maps I would very grateful' Yours faithfully, Fraser Stuart, 43 Morningfield Road, Aberdeen, AB15 4AP -- Ken Atherton British Cartographic Society Administration 12 Elworthy Drive Wellington Somerset TA21 9AT UK Tel/Fax 01823 665 775 http://www.cartography.org.uk This message is intended only for the use of the individual(s) to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: maphist15@mail.maphist.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:19:36 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: List-owner MapHist Subject: [MapHist] Richard removed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I removed him. No need to send him further instructions. Peter At 11:58 31-8-2004, you wrote: >Hi how can I be removed from your mailking list? Thanks Richard >-------------------------- >Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "Baarnhielm, Goran" To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:04:27 +0100 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward X-Accept-Language: sv X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl The death of David Woodward is most saddening indeed. He had a strong and sharp mind but a kind and gentle personality. You might remember his ICHC 2003 Portland paper on the John Donne poem "Hymn to God, My God, in My Sickness". Goran Baarnhielm ******************************************************************* Göran Bäärnhielm, Map Curator Kungl. biblioteket - The Royal Library - National Library of Sweden P.O. Box 5039, SE-102 41 Stockholm, Sweden Tel.: +46-8-463 4180. Fax: +46-8-463 4328. E-mail: goran.baarnhielm@kb.se ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: vanderkr18@mail.vanderkrogt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:48:59 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward messages X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Dear all I think it is a good idea of Karin Pinto to collect all MapHist messages over David Woodward and sent them to his family. I will do that. If somebody has already forwarded messages to David's family, please let me know. Peter Peter van der Krogt List-owner MapHist List-info: http://www.maphist.nl _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Philippe Foręt Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:55:56 +0200 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl ArialFor those like me who did not know this poem, here it is:   Philippe Foręt """""" HYMN TO GOD, MY GOD, IN MY SICKNESS. Since I am coming to that holy room, Where, with thy choir of saints for evermore, I shall be made thy music; as I come I tune the instrument here at the door,  And what I must do then, think here before. Whilst my physicians by their love are grown Cosmographers, and I their map, who lie Flat on this bed, that by them may be shown That this is my southwest discovery,  Per fretum febris,(1) by these straits to die; I joy, that in these straits I see my west; For, though those currents yield return to none, What shall my west hurt me? As west and east In all flat maps (and I am one) are one, So death doth touch the resurrection. Is the Pacific Sea my home? Or are The eastern riches? Is Jerusalem? Anyan, and Magellan, and Gibraltar,  All straits, and none but straits, are ways to them  Whether where Japhet dwelt, or Cham, or Shem. We think that Paradise and Calvary, Christ's Cross and Adam's tree, stood in one place; Look Lord, and find both Adams met in me; As the first Adam's sweat surrounds my face, May the last Adam's blood my soul embrace. So, in his purple wrapped receive me Lord; By these his thorns, give me his other crown; And as to others' souls I preached thy word, Be this my text, my sermon to mine own, Therefore that he may raise, the Lord throws down. Source: John Donne, Selected Poems, New York, Dover Publications, 1993. Page 69. (1) Through the strait of fever Le 31 aoűt 2004, ŕ 13:04, Baarnhielm, Goran a écrit : The death of David Woodward is most saddening indeed. He had a strong and sharp mind but a kind and gentle personality. You might remember his ICHC 2003 Portland paper on the John Donne poem "Hymn to God, My God, in My Sickness". Goran Baarnhielm ******************************************************************* Göran Bäärnhielm, Map Curator Kungl. biblioteket - The Royal Library - National Library of Sweden P.O. Box 5039, SE-102 41 Stockholm, Sweden Tel.: +46-8-463 4180. Fax: +46-8-463 4328. E-mail: goran.baarnhielm@kb.se ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: giorgio mangani Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:58:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I had known David was ill, but I had hoped in his improvement. I am not able to think in which way we shall carry on the enormous work to do in re-thinking History of Cartography without his curiosity, competence and, most of all, willingness to help everybody, noth withstanding his discreet character. He was in the centre of many (I think all) contacts all over the world, often personal and friendly contacts. I think it will be necessary that all his friends would remain in touch, in some way. Yours sincerely Giorgio Mangani Via Astagno 66 60122 Ancona Italy _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: overlee@verizon.net To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] NYTimes.com Article: David Woodward, Scholar on Mapmaking, Dies at 61 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:01:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl The article below from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by overlee@verizon.net. This obituary, plus a photograph of David, appears in today's issue of The New York Times. Martin Torodash overlee@verizon.net /--------- E-mail Sponsored by Fox Searchlight ------------\ I HEART HUCKABEES - OPENING IN SELECT CITIES OCTOBER 1 From David O. Russell, writer and director of THREE KINGS and FLIRTING WITH DISASTER comes an existential comedy starring Dustin Hoffman, Isabelle Hupert, Jude Law, Jason Schwartzman, Lily Tomlin, Mark Wahlberg and Naomi Watts. Watch the trailer now at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/huckabees/index_nyt.html \----------------------------------------------------------/ David Woodward, Scholar on Mapmaking, Dies at 61 August 31, 2004 By JEREMY PEARCE David A. Woodward, a British-born geographer, editor and historian of mapmaking who helped create an encyclopedic series of books re-examining the place of mapmaking in world history, died last Wednesday at his home in Madison, Wis., where he taught at the University of Wisconsin for two decades. He was 61. The cause was cancer of the bile duct, said his daughter, Jennifer Woodward. At his death, Dr. Woodward had been editing the multivolume History of Cartography Project, an effort begun at the university in 1981. Previous such histories had focused on technical developments in mapping rather than on its social and philosophical implications. But in the 1970's Dr. Woodward and a colleague, J. B. Harley, conceived the idea of a wide-ranging cultural history of mapmaking. They approached historians and other experts to contribute articles, and published the first of a projected total of six volumes in 1987. Dr. Harley died in 1991. Robert W. Karrow Jr., curator of maps at the Newberry Library in Chicago, said that where earlier histories had paid scant attention to the mapmaking of African and other third-world cultures, Dr. Woodward had broadened the field. "This history is going to be the standard reference work in cartography for a very long time, " Dr. Karrow said. The initial volume addressed mapmaking in Europe and the Mediterranean, in prehistoric, ancient and medieval periods. A review published in The New York Times in 1987 praised it for "impeccable scholarship" and "new insights and some reassessment of traditional thinking." The second volume examined Islamic, African, Asian and American maps, among other topics, and was printed in three sections from 1992 to 1998. Both of the first two volumes were published by the University of Chicago Press. A third is planned for 2005, covering the European Renaissance. The final three volumes of the series are intended to cover the European Enlightenment and the 19th and 20th centuries. The six volumes will have 4,500 pages in all, said the series' managing editor, Judith A. Leimer, a former student of Dr. Woodward. Before undertaking the history project, Dr. Woodward was an illustrator and an authority on Italian printed maps of the 16th century. He then expanded his expertise, defining his greater interest as "the graphic representation of spatial knowledge." David Alfred Woodward was born on Aug. 29, 1942, in Royal Leamington Spa, England. After graduating from the University of Wales Swansea, he received a doctorate in geography from the University of Wisconsin in 1970. He joined the Newberry Library in 1969 and was director of its Hermon Dunlap Smith Center for the History of Cartography from 1974 to 1980. He then went back to Wisconsin, began the cartography project and was named a professor of geography. He took emeritus status in 2002 and continued to be co-editor of the project. Dr. Woodward became an American citizen in 1976. Besides his daughter, Jennifer, who lives in Manhattan, he is survived by his wife of 38 years, Rosalind, and a son, Justin, both of Madison; and his mother, Kathleen, of Pinner, England. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/31/obituaries/31woodward.html?ex=1094957285&ei=1&en=0a417a7408b23575 --------------------------------- Get Home Delivery of The New York Times Newspaper. Imagine reading The New York Times any time & anywhere you like! Leisurely catch up on events & expand your horizons. Enjoy now for 50% off Home Delivery! Click here: http://homedelivery.nytimes.com/HDS/SubscriptionT1.do?mode=SubscriptionT1&ExternalMediaCode=W24AF HOW TO ADVERTISE --------------------------------- For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact onlinesales@nytimes.com or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help@nytimes.com. Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: Maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: Maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:52:44 -0700 Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward From: Penny L.Richards To: Maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl You all are describing him so well, and the Donne poem sounds exactly like something he could have written a lovely paper around, thank you for sharing that. I'm at a loss. It is very sad to find myself now in a closed category--the lucky advisees of David Woodward. He was, indeed, kind and gentle, curious and sharp and willing to help. He was also, in my experience, encouraging and funny and eminently sensible. We'll do what we can to help his vision continue. Penny L. Richards PhD Research Scholar, UCLA Center for the Study of Women Co-editor, H-Education and H-Disability turley2@earthlink.net [David was my master's thesis advisor, 1990] _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Authentication-Warning: alpha1.csd.uwm.edu: bruf owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:56:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Bruce Fetter To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl The loss of David Woodward has numerous implications for all of academia. I first met David--and Brian Harley who was to become my colleague--at the First Summer Institute in Cartography at the Newberry Library in Chicago during the summer of 1980. Then and subsequently, David was unfailingly helpful in helping a historian acquire a language to discuss the many insights which can not be obtained through exclusively verbal sources. He also served as a priceless resource as I developed a course to teach out of the American Geographical Society collection. Over the years, I was in awe of the resourcefulness he displayed in fostering the first four parts of the History of Cartography and delighted in the annual print productions which he sent to supporters. He was a humanist who could come, like Donne, come to terms with the world as it is. What troubles me most, however, is the difficulty of replacing David, Brian, and the others like them--geographers, often British-trained, who had a humanist's appreciation of "the look of maps" and a social scientist's understanding of their strengths and imperfections in representing our world. I sense an institutional crisis in the training of historians of cartography. The fixation on GIS in so many US geography departments has pushed historical cartography to the periphery. Historians have been slow to fill the void, because it takes hard intellectual work to treat maps as texts rather than as illustrations. In David's honor, I would therefore like to pose a question to the MapHist community. How are we going to train future generations of historical cartographers? For both geography and history, the training is a two-step process. Geographers must go beyond their basic question of how best to represent the world to the question of how those representations have changed over time. Historians must learn to add the visual to the verbal sources from which we reconstruct the past. The best way to perpetuate David's memory is to train others to continue his work. ************************** Bruce Fetter * History Department, UW-M * P.O. Box 413 * Milwaukee, WI 53201 * Telephone: (414) 229-5207* FAX: (414) 229-2435 * ************************** _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:59:22 -0400 From: sylvia tomasch To: "maphist@geog.uu.nl" Subject: Re: [MapHist] MapHist - David Woodward User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I want to add to the many expressions of sadness on David Woodward's untimely death. What I remember most was that he was interested in everything, even literature and cartography, which was my concern early on. He was extremely encouraging to a beginner and someone he knew only slightly. His legacy is not only the History of Cartography project but a model of scholarship and collegiality. -- Professor Sylvia Tomasch, Chair Department of English Hunter College (CUNY) 695 Park Avenue New York, New York 10021 ph: 212 772-5079/70 fax:212 772-5411 stomasch@hunter.cuny.edu _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Moecker Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl I read with shock of the passing of David Woodward, and would like to add my own heartfelt condolences to his family. While I never had the opportunity to meet David in person, I benefited from just those attributes so well described by others in previous emails. David demonstrated his willingness to help me (a total stranger to him) in researching a manscript T-O map I had recently acquired. Not only did he offer his own thoughts and insights in numerous emails, but took the time to provide me with names of local resources I could contact. I believe this attitude from people such as David can go a long way to ensuring that others may find the incentive to follow in his footsteps. To me, his legacy is not limited to the monumental resources he left us in print, but also the example of encourangement and helpfulness he demonstrated towards those he came in contact with. --- Bruce Fetter wrote: > The loss of David Woodward has numerous > implications for all of > academia. I first met David--and Brian Harley who > was to become my > colleague--at the First Summer Institute in > Cartography at the Newberry > Library in Chicago during the summer of 1980. Then > and subsequently, David > was unfailingly helpful in helping a historian > acquire a language to > discuss the many insights which can not be obtained > through exclusively > verbal sources. He also served as a priceless > resource as I developed a > course to teach out of the American Geographical > Society collection. Over > the years, I was in awe of the resourcefulness he > displayed in fostering > the first four parts of the History of Cartography > and delighted in the > annual print productions which he sent to > supporters. He was a humanist > who could come, like Donne, come to terms with the > world as it is. > > What troubles me most, however, is the difficulty > of replacing > David, Brian, and the others like them--geographers, > often > British-trained, who had a humanist's appreciation > of "the look of maps" > and a social scientist's understanding of their > strengths and > imperfections in representing our world. I sense an > institutional crisis > in the training of historians of cartography. The > fixation on GIS in so > many US geography departments has pushed historical > cartography to the > periphery. Historians have been slow to fill the > void, because it takes > hard intellectual work to treat maps as texts rather > than as > illustrations. > > In David's honor, I would therefore like to pose a > question to > the MapHist community. How are we going to train > future generations of > historical cartographers? For both geography and > history, the training is > a two-step process. Geographers must go beyond their > basic question of how > best to represent the world to the question of how > those representations > have changed over time. Historians must learn to add > the visual to the > verbal sources from which we reconstruct the past. > > The best way to perpetuate David's memory is to > train others to > continue his work. > > ************************** > Bruce Fetter * > History Department, UW-M * > P.O. Box 413 * > Milwaukee, WI 53201 * > Telephone: (414) 229-5207* > FAX: (414) 229-2435 * > ************************** > > _______________________________________________________________ > MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of > cartography > hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, > University of Utrecht. > The statements and opinions expressed in this > message are those of > the author and do not necessarily reflect those of > the University of > Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any > responsibility for > the views of the author. > List Information: http://www.maphist.info > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Sender: jsk@pop.gamewood.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:53:27 -0400 To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: Joel Kovarsky Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl At 10:56 AM 8/31/2004, you wrote:
 In David's honor, I would therefore like to pose a question to
the MapHist community. How are we going to train future generations of
historical cartographers?

Like other commentators, I had never had the pleasure of meeting David Woodward, and had hoped to do so in conjunction with the planned course on the History of Cartography at the University of Virginia's Rare Book School. Bruce Fetter's comments and concerns are amplified in the latest issue of Imago Mundi (vol 56, part 2, 2004) with the review article by Jeremy Crampton: Exploring the History of Cartography in the Twentieth Century, where the opening paragraph states  "In May 1977 two friends David Woodward and Brian Harley took a walk down a quiet Devon country lane..." (p. 200). That quote itself was referred to a eulogy to Brian Harley, from David Woodward.

   Joel Kovarsky



X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "J.B. Post" To: Subject: [MapHist] On David Woodward Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:13:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl While we must never forget David's contributions to scholarship - and they are many - he also had a lighter side which I was privileged to know. He shared with me images from his collection of "map shapes on animals" and other less orthodox items. He was supportive when AN ATLAS OF FANTASY was published, saying it was a legitimate, if strange, contribution to cartographic studies. He was a scholar, but not locked into a rigid tradition, enjoying and being amused by the unusual, but never losing sight of his goals in the broader field. We all miss him and wish we had said so much to him when he was here. J. B. Post _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Subject: Re: [MapHist] David Woodward To: maphist@geog.uu.nl X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 From: "ahudson" Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:55:20 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on MHTMAIL02/MHT/Nypl(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 08/31/2004 12:55:20 PM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl So much of David's legacy is in the very people he inspired, trained and encouraged over the decades. I have great faith in the continuing influence and power of his life and work. As a curator of a map collection in which David might safely graze, I personally pledge to continue encouraging the very scholars, students, aficionados and new discoverers of maps, cartography, geography and GIS. Not only David, but so many of his colleagues have crossed my path in this place, NYPL, and have taught me so very much. These threads of learning and enthusiasm and intellectual curiousity weave a wonderful pattern of collegiality and sharing. It is a delicate but everlasting gift for us today, and for tomorrow's scholars. Alice C. Hudson Chief, Map Division The Humanities and Social Sciences Library The New York Public Library 5th Avenue & 42nd Street, Room 117 New York, NY 10018-2788 ahudson@nypl.org; 212-930-0589; fax 212-930-0027 http://nypl.org/research/chss/map/map.html The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit. - Nelson Henderson _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 X-Original-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl Delivered-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl From: "R & P Betz" To: Subject: [MapHist] David Woodward Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:51:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Sender: owner-maphist@pop.geog.uu.nl Reply-To: maphist@geog.uu.nl List-Info: http://www.maphist.info X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at geog.uu.nl Though I unfortunately did not have the privilege of knowing David Woodward as well as many of the "old timers" on MapHist, I would like to add my own words of respect and appreciation. David was of immense help to me with my own small work. He graciously responded to my queries and freely passed his knowledge on to me. Like many of you, I can not imagine how the void in the history of cartography as a result of his untimely death can be filled. Sincerely, Richard L. Betz betzmaps@earthlink.net _______________________________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.info